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 Evidence For Polar Shift Causing The Animal Death | |||||
It's been known for some time that the north pole is accelerating towards Russia. [link to news.nationalgeographic.com] So the effects should continue if that is the cause. Hopefully it is a fluctuation and not a reversal. Given the nature of faulty navigation, is any further explanation needed to explain the deaths of the fish or birds other than blunt force trauma from falling from such heights and hitting structures and for the fish simply washing up on shores and suffocating? Not that I know of so far. One argument I have gotten is. 'We've already tested their reaction to changing magnetic fields. They become confused, but it doesn't kill them and they are able to cope.'  Been getting quite annoyed at all the poor scientific explanations speculated given the printing speed of the press. Hopefully this might quiet down some of the scaremongering. Last Edited by Rhodes on 1/9/2011 at 1:30 AM
[link to www.nytimes.com] I suggest people read this very good article in 1992 of the works of Dr. Joseph Kirschvink pioneering magnetite in the human brain, I'm sure you will thoroughly enjoy it. Who knows what else he has discovered by 2010 that hasn't made it through the peer-review process yet, would be interesting if someone in California could get in touch with him to give his opinions on the recent events. Joseph L. Kirschvink Division of Geological and Planetary SciencesCalifornia Institute of Technology Pasadena CA 91125, USA http://www.gps.caltech.edu/users/jkirschvink/  Joe was born and raised in the Southwest United States, which does not necessarily explain his infatuation with geology and biology, but it helps. Rather than attending an undergraduate university on the East Coast, where all of the rocks are covered with green goo, Joe chose to pursue his undergraduate education in Pasadena, California, where the atmosphere itself in the early 1970s was capable of cleaning the rock surfaces to show the beautiful geology underneath. However, upon the advice of two mentors (one with his magnetic mind in the stars, and the other more mindful of the magnetic minerals made by microbes), he reluctantly agreed to serve time in the East among the Ivy leaves at Princeton for his Ph.D. Joe did this, however, by traveling through Australia for a year (he recently went back, and is shown here standing on the Hamersly banded iron formation), and by spending about 50% of this time as a graduate student somewhere "in the field". He abandoned his experiment with the East Coast in 1981, and has been on the faculty back at Caltech ever since.Joe has a lot of fun creating "nutty" ideas like the snowball Earth, and confusing paleontologists by trying to convince them that the Cambrian explosion was caused by a series of interchange events in the orthonormal Eigenvectors of Earth's Moment of Inertia Tensor. (A good number of paleontologists actually know what a tensor is, and realize that a moment of inertia is not just what keeps them in bed in the morning �.) Joe even pretends that animals can predict earthquakes, just to keep his seismological colleagues on their toes. His major claim to being a paleontologist is his prediction and discovery of magnetofossils, which are not very useful for biostratigraphy but are wonderful as a Martian biomarker and for increasing the NASA Astrobiology budget. Joe likes to swim and ski, and to explore the hot mineral waters produced by Mother Earth. He is married to a neurobiological electron microscopist, Atsuko Kobayashi, and they have two children (Jiseki and Koseki), whose names mean "magnetite" and "gemstone" respectively in Japanese. As a result, the children will probably grow up to be bloodsucking lawyers. And his family still doesn't know if home is in Pasadena or Osaka. Magnetite, in minuscule amounts, was found all over the brain, said Dr. Kirschvink and his co-authors, his wife, Atsuko Kobayashi-Kirschvink, and Dr. Barbara J. Woodford of the University of Southern California. Most regions of the brain had five million magnetite crystals per gram of tissue. The tough membrane that covers the brain had 100 million crystals per gram. Each human brain on average contains seven billion particles of magnetite, weighing a total of one-millionth of an ounce. Magnetite interacts over a million times more strongly with external magnetic fields than any other biological material, Dr. Kirschvink said, including the iron in red blood cells. If only one cell in a million contains magnetite, he said, magnetic fields could exert an effect on the tissue.  For instance, if the magnetite were coupled to channels that let substances pass through cell membranes and the crystals began to oscillate during exposure to an external magnetic field, Dr. Kirschvink said, one could imagine all sorts of biological effects, including the promotion of cancer. Quoting: nytimes"It's very interesting work," said Dr. Charles Rafferty, who is in charge of studying health effects of magnetic fields at the Electric Power Research Institute in Menlo Park, Calif. "It does provide a possible link for biological effects." For more of his work: [link to www.gps.caltech.edu] I have recently come across a very strange mainstream scientific article asserting "The only unusual part of the recent spate of bird (and fish) die-offs is that people witnessed them". [link to news.discovery.com] I'm not against the fact that this kind of thing has happened before but it would have to demonstrated to me that this kind of event occurs to this extremity in the wild, and then an explanation to why it has happened in this extreme case near human civilisation which seems an extremely odd presumption to me. Otherwise I'll rightly have trouble accepting that it is normal as I have only been giving a few examples from over a big time span, while the examples within just a few days has already toppled that record. Continuing I would also like to know that if these cases are in the same context of what is happening now, how scientists, if any, have made the connection that it is disease or temperature related, while scientists at the moment are very uncertain, of course we're waiting on more lab results. It seems like a pitiful attempt from an otherwise decent science journalist to quell the onslaught of scaremongering. | |||||
Started to build evidence that the recent birds dying is to do with the polar shift towards Russia.
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
-blue-stain-beaks.html
The birds mysteriously had blue beaks, you will begin to understand that is because birds also use their beaks for navigation. Here is a very good good article on it.
[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
They have a magnetic mineral called magnetite that is in their beaks which they use for navigation.
[link to www.technologyreview.com]
Another excellent article published by MIT which shows that as a magnetic field gets stronger magnetite goes towards the blue spectrum, seeing that the north magnetic pole came further south than usual, it could have made the beak turn blue. Haven't got a good pictures of the blue beaks, but if the stain stems from the ethmoid region of the beak that could be further evidence as that is where the magnetite originates.
It's been known for some time that the north pole is accelerating towards Russia.
[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
So the effects should continue if that is the cause. Hopefully it is a fluctuation and not a reversal.
Given the nature of faulty navigation, is any further explanation needed to explain the deaths of the fish or birds other than blunt force trauma from falling from such heights and hitting structures and for the fish simply washing up on shores and suffocating? Not that I know of so far.
One argument I have gotten is.
'We've already tested their reaction to changing magnetic fields. They become confused, but it doesn't kill them and they are able to cope.'
In which I think he implied killed directly, which is true we have tested them with artificial magnets, but the birds magnetic map isn't fine-tuned to artificial magnets it's fine tuned to the earths magnetic fields and would be able to make the distinction between two and be less confused by the artificial. So it's plausible to say that the confusion would be greater with changes in the magnetic map they actually use.
Been getting quite annoyed at all the poor scientific explanations speculated given the printing speed of the press. Hopefully this might quiet down some of the scaremongering.
Quoting: Rhodes-blue-stain-beaks.html
The birds mysteriously had blue beaks, you will begin to understand that is because birds also use their beaks for navigation. Here is a very good good article on it.
[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
They have a magnetic mineral called magnetite that is in their beaks which they use for navigation.
[link to www.technologyreview.com]
Another excellent article published by MIT which shows that as a magnetic field gets stronger magnetite goes towards the blue spectrum, seeing that the north magnetic pole came further south than usual, it could have made the beak turn blue. Haven't got a good pictures of the blue beaks, but if the stain stems from the ethmoid region of the beak that could be further evidence as that is where the magnetite originates.
It's been known for some time that the north pole is accelerating towards Russia.
[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]
So the effects should continue if that is the cause. Hopefully it is a fluctuation and not a reversal.
Given the nature of faulty navigation, is any further explanation needed to explain the deaths of the fish or birds other than blunt force trauma from falling from such heights and hitting structures and for the fish simply washing up on shores and suffocating? Not that I know of so far.
One argument I have gotten is.
'We've already tested their reaction to changing magnetic fields. They become confused, but it doesn't kill them and they are able to cope.'
In which I think he implied killed directly, which is true we have tested them with artificial magnets, but the birds magnetic map isn't fine-tuned to artificial magnets it's fine tuned to the earths magnetic fields and would be able to make the distinction between two and be less confused by the artificial. So it's plausible to say that the confusion would be greater with changes in the magnetic map they actually use.
Been getting quite annoyed at all the poor scientific explanations speculated given the printing speed of the press. Hopefully this might quiet down some of the scaremongering.
SAFFRONASHA / PLATOBIRD
I'm also PLATOBIRD changed it here to sync with other site
Here's a study regarding the magnetite in homing pigeons beaks!!!!!!!! This is beyond amazing. [link to www.springerlink.com]
Don't know how much you guys have talked about...but do you know that the disappearance of bees called colony collapse is also explained with magnetite. Bee don't die..they just can't find there way back to the hive!! How about beached whales, and crabs, magnetite everyone....magnetite..
Us humans have magnetite in our brains too!!!!
saffronasha / platobird
Last Edited by platobird on 1/12/2011 at 2:52 PM
Calcite microcrystals in the pineal gland of the human brain: first physical and chemical studies.
Baconnier S, Lang SB, Polomska M, Hilczer B, Berkovic G, Meshulam G.
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
[link to www.99thagent.org]
New Crystal in the Pineal Gland: Characterization and Potential Role in Electromechano-Transduction
[link to fedgeno.com]
| Re: Evidence For Polar Shift Causing The Animal Death | Quote |
I wonder if there were bird kills when they had the magnetic storms in 1859 ? [link to sunearthday.gsfc.nasa.gov] Magnetite in the brain (GLP thread) "Scientists are now asking the fundamental question: What is magnetite doing in the human brain? In magnetite-containing bacteria, the answer is simple: Magnetite crystals turn the bacteria into swimming needles that orient with respect to the earth's magnetic fields. Magnetite has also been found in animals that navigate by compass direction, such as bees, birds, and fish, but scientists do not know why the magnetite is present in humans, only that it is there. We have also seen in research done in the late 1980s that proteins, DNA, and transforming DNA function as piezoelectric crystal lattice structures in nature. The piezoelectric effect refers to that property of matter which may convert electromagnetic oscillations to mechanical vibrations and vice versa. Studies with exogenously administered electromagnetic fields have shown that both transcription (RNA synthesis) and translation (protein synthesis) can be induced by electromagnetic fields and furthermore that direct current in bone will produce osteochondrogenesis (bone formation) and bacteriostasis, as well as affect adenosine triphosphate (ATP) generation, protein synthesis and membrane transport." [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] The above forum comments are sourced here: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1315972/pg1 87. Magnetic Brains Give Birds An Inner Compass | Animal ...Jan 15, 2008 ... Another navigational tool: birds' beaks, which contain bits of magnetite, a mineral that may allow them to sense Earth's magnetic field. ...Magnetite biomineralization in the human brain.Biogenic magnetite in the human brain may account for high-field saturation effects observed in the T1 and T2 values of magnetic resonance imaging and, ... | |
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The polar shift happen fast, in days. In 1901 a mammoth carcass was found so well preserved that there were food fragments, as yet unswallowed, in its mouth. Moreover, there was more than twenty pounds of vegetation still in the stomach cavity – some of which was not yet decayed. The animal had died and been frozen in virtually a matter of hours (Dillow, pp. 319-20).’
ReplyDeleteThe matter of fact is that during a polar shift the sky collapse.
Earth stops rotation and there will be 3 long nights or days depend where you live. After, the rotation will start in opposite side. But wait. The magnetic field strength goes 0 as earth stops. So they that are under the sun die from radiation. The crust stress creates very strong earthquakes that set up all volcanoes and super volcanoes. Because air moves with earth 700 to 900 MPH, as earth stops wind speeds 400 to 500 MPH are normal. DNA test of HUMANS prove that we all converge in some point around 26000 years before. The reason that humans are very similar is that humanity, continually goes through a bottleneck, and let only thousands to live. If 5000 years ago there were only 250 million humans, then 25000 years ago there were only 2000. And this will go over and over again. The lucky one in government’s underground shelters might survive, but they will start over again from the beginning.